Are astrologers a bunch of frauds and charlatans?

Question

Since I keep asking where they get all their information from and they cannot tell me this in detail or they make up some excuse but expect people to believe them how can someone believe you if you can't even sit there and give a sensible analysis? Are astrologers just fake people who study the work of charlatans and prey on the gullibility of the human mind? I want to believe in astrology so bad but none of these astrologers seem to really answer this question..

Answer 1

Astrology is just a tool, like an other science or skill. It's simply a method, a tool, to use for a better understanding of your environment. It can be used alone or in conjunction with other skills, such as psychology, anatomy, astronomy, physiology.....



A person can use this skill properly and get good results, or a person can misuse this skill and get bad results.



Either way, belief is irrelevant.



Astrology isn't a religion. There's nothing secretive or esoteric or supernatural about it once you understand how to use it (that's called developing a skill). It does not require belief, just an understanding of the functions and methods, like any other skill.



I think many so called skeptics are frauds and charlatans. They make assumptions about astrology that are not correct simply because they are too lazy to actually learn their subject matter. A scientist that followed the same procedures would be mocked and fired.

Answer 2

yes there frauds. all of them. every last one.

do you think the stars or planets effect your decisions.

of course they don't.

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Answer 4

If you were really concerned with an answer and wanted to believe in astrology SO badly, you wouldn't be looking at things through your **** tinted glasses. Like, maybe you're not liking with what you're hearing, but roll with it. People are just trying to help, you know? If you're not getting the answers you want, try somewhere else, but don't pull... this. Obviously it isn't enough for you to be right in your own mind, so you have to come here and make other people think that they're wrong.

Answer 5

I would imagine some "astrologers" are frauds and charlatans, but so are some lawyers & politicians & doctors & on & on...



Astrology, however, is quite real.



Speaking as a professional astrologer with 25+ years of experience, I have never ever tried to trick or fool anyone. I have hundreds of satisfied clients and very very few unsatisfied ones. And when they are unsatisfied I do not take any payment.



I have done every reading for every client by looking at their individual birth chart, examining the planets, the signs, their positions and their aspects to each other, and interpreting it all based on centuries of collected astrological lore, and of course, anything I have learned from my years of personal experience. Simple outline: The planet symbolizes the desire & the impetus. The sign it is in symbolizes the manner in which that desire & impetus will manifest. The house the planet is in symbolizes where in a person's life it will manifest the strongest. Aspects between planets indicate how all these traits will interact with each other.



I am uncertain as to what you mean by "where they get all their information from." If you are asking exactly how we interpret a chart, well, I outlined that above. If you are asking where each little bit of info comes from... hell... that is a LOT of work. If I wrote a complete answer to every curious person on Yahoo!Answers who asks the same question you ask (over & over & over) I would be doing nothing but sitting here typing all day long every day.



Have you ever had a reading by a reputable astrologer? (We do have certifying organizations, by the way) You might want to try one if you are curious.



You can't find out what something feels like by asking people how it feels. You have to experience it.

Answer 6

Sun-sign astrologers ... are not doing anybody any favors. Sun-sign astrology is bunk. You and I both know that 7 million people are NOT going to be all the same, just because they were born in a certain month.



Real astrology ... well, my best clients always came from the sceptics. Not only did they send me the most referrals, they came back regularly, once a year (you don't really need to talk with an astrologer any more-often than once a year). I especially liked the engineers ... it was so fun to blow their mind with the specifics and watch them change their mind about astrology. Engineers are so logical and scientific and literal you know ... they have to be in their field of work.



But to answer your question, everything in astrology has a meaning, a dynamic. You learn the meanings. And just as you know that -22F is .... cold!!!!! (it helps if you have seen this for yourself), you know that certain astrological indicators mean certain things. Of course, you also have to understand the dynamics of human personality ... just HOW is a person most likely to react when they need one thing but also need something totally contradictory?

- Each "planet" (there are 10) represents a specific inner need, a particular facet of your personality.

- The sign a planet is in shows the style of that need, or that facet

- The "house" (the part of the sky) shows where in your life you turn to try to meet that need

- And the "aspects" (which are certain distances or arc around the 360-degree circle of the ecliptic) shows how one need interacts with another need ... how and why the two might support each other, or how and why they might be in conflict with each other and thereby produce inner stress.



A good astrologer can see the interplay of these internal needs ... and can also suggest ways to work through the conflicting needs. How do they "see"?

Well ... I learned the theory. Then I spent about 5 years following 100 people who I saw on a regular basis. I observed, compared, questioned ... came to a sense of what the theory actually meant in real terms. Then I spend 3 years giving "free" readings ... my "fee" was that the person had to understand that I was testing myself, and they had to correct me if I was wrong, they had to be willing to look inside themselves, and to help me understand how their inner dynamics affected them and how these dynamics were outwardly expressed. I learned a lot from those 3 years. And when I thought I was ready, I went and wrote a professional-certification exam (proctored) to test my own knowledge. I was self-taught, but the American Federation of Astrologers figured that I had learned the same things they had. And if an astrologer's independent learnings don't match the concensus of other astrologers, there's something wrong with their grasp of astrology.

Only after getting my certification was I ready to do actual sessions with clients.

I think it helped that my IQ is in the 98th percentile ... I see patterns well, and astrology is all about patterns.

Answer 7

Astrology is a type of divination, in other words fortune telling. Like most fortune telling "systems" astrology uses randomness. In this case, a random event (your birthday and time) along with geocentric positions of the planets. The angles of the planets matter, the distance does not.



Fortune telling is the second oldest profession in the world. Astrology is just the most popular.

Answer 8

I began to give information at one site and quit when asked more then just my birth date and time of birth. I do not believe the city or state of birth or my email address to "send" my horoscope is needed. I refused to provide my birth state and city because that information is often use to identify people on their financial accounts. And if the site cannot give me a horoscope on the spot and requires an email address? Too much information for a prediction that may or may not be accurate.

Answer 9

i can tell you where i can my info.



do you think every psy, doc, stockbroker will agree and have the same opinion as the next one ? of course not !



it will be rare to find 2people belonging in the same field agreing with each other.



while i might laugh at a doc for exemple telling me about nutrition whilst living on mcdonalds himself..i will laugh.....he might still be a good doc but not for himself.



where I do draw the line though..........is spiritually speaking.



when they yap onandonandonandon....about karma, spirituality, high consciousness and all this stuff. and at the same time have the basest natures.



so yes, to me those are charlatans !



are you going to listen at your local priest when you know he is doing choirboys too ?

i caudht some self claimed buddhists behaving the same way 11111111







so yeah..by my standards..almost all are charlatans.



only a few live or try to live with their own principles.

Answer 10

I just answered your other questions. Read them first before you keep posting these anti-astrology questions because it's obvious you don't understand astrology and now you look like you're just trolling. You have no business questioning a subject matter as fake when you have such a total lack of understanding.

Answer 11

You want to believe in astrology..? Maybe that's why you're having so much trouble listening to the answers. You're not looking for insight and possibilities, you're looking for security.

Answer 12

Solitary, I agree with "Kyle" here.



You ARE being answered, but somehow it doesn't matter? Let me ask you: WHY are YOU so bitter? I mean as bitter as to fight windmills. There should be some "serious" and "real" reason for you to come to the "Entertainment" category and demand to give you a proof that you are in "Science" category, no?



EDITED: "Been There", pay attention, I gave you the first "thumb up" because you are a considerate human being, and I liked your "pattern"

Answer 13

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Answer 14

Are you talking about those guys that have an afeminated look, wear ridiculous gowns of exuberant colors with moon's and suns that give lectures on tv about your life as if one fits all advise.

No..! But i will say rather clever.

Answer 15

Before you decide to start believing in astrology, try this: instead of looking up the traits for your sign and comparing them to yourself, look up the traits for a different sign and match them to yourself. Virgo matches me surprisingly well (my sign). However, so does Sagittarius. And Capricorn.



Edit: I like how you get a bunch of thumbs up for claiming disbelief in God, but when you say something against astrology, all you get are thumbs down.

Answer 16

I wouldn't exactly call all of them "frauds," since some do believe in that B.S. However, there is no evidence to support astrology. Read your horoscope some day. They are purposely worded so vaguely that it could apply to anyone and anything.

Answer 17

This would be a perfect time for you to go troll somewhere else, then, wouldn't it?

Answer 18

you keep geting your awaser but you keep ignorin it



http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-bin/astro/natal



fill that out and you will get your chart



you dont have to belive in it.. no i isnt proven.. just like religion