Help on the signs changing?

Question

ya i know that they didn't change and that its old news before it was even new news...if that even makes sense

my question is regarding the fact that there was this big mess about it and well tomorrow is my city science fair and i did it on astrology and i know for sure the judge is probably gonna be like "so did you hear about the sign change? does that mean your project is wrong?" *imagine the tiny particles of sweet on my forehead*

lol but can someone explain why it only has to do with sidereal nd not western so i can explain it?

Answer 1

You are going to have a real problem because ASTROLOGY IS NOT A SCIENCE. It is a fortune telling system based on myth and superstition. Not testable evidence.



Your science teacher must have explained the scientific method to you.



The scientific method is the best way yet discovered for winnowing the truth from lies and delusion. The simple version looks something like this:



* 1. Observe some aspect of the universe.

* 2. Invent a tentative description, called a hypothesis, that is consistent with what you have observed.

* 3. Use the hypothesis to make predictions.

* 4. Test those predictions by experiments or further observations and modify the hypothesis in the light of your results.

* 5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until there are no discrepancies between theory and experiment and/or observation.



When consistency is obtained the hypothesis becomes a theory and provides a coherent set of propositions which explain a class of phenomena. A theory is then a framework within which observations are explained and predictions are made.



A theory is accepted not based on the prestige or convincing powers of the proponent, but on the results obtained through observations and/or experiments which anyone can reproduce: the results obtained using the scientific method are REPEATABLE. In fact, most experiments and observations are repeated many times (certain experiments are not repeated independently but are repeated as parts of other experiments). If the original claims are not verified the origin of such discrepancies is hunted down and exhaustively studied.



Because astrology is a belief oriented, it can not use the method. However, it's claims are fully testable and all testing has shown that it fails to do better than chance.



The sign change is nothing to worry about. You choice of subject was wrong from the start for a science fair. You want real science? The second link shows why astrology can't work.



Edit: Which astrology is the real one? How is this known? There are many types and each one contradicts the other. Science is neutral method that uses evidence and not belief. If you don't believe in gravity, does it cease to have an effect?

Answer 2

Sidereal astrology ... based off the the positions of the actual constellations.

Google "precession of the equinoxes" to understand just why these signs appear to move.

You see, right now if you look at the Sun at the time of the Spring Equinox, you will see 5-Pisces behind it (each sign is given 30 degrees out of the 360-degree circle, called the ecliptic, that circles the earth). 2000 years ago, you would have seen Aries there. Things change.



But astrologers, using the Tropical zodiac, do not use the actual constellations as their signs. They start 0-degrees of Aries AT the point of the Spring Equinox, regardless of what constellation might be there. So the first 0-29 degrees of the ecliptic after the Spring Equinox is labelled Aries. The second, 30-59 degrees is labelled Taurus, and so forth. The Tropical zodiac uses directions in space related to the seasons.



This may seem less "accurate" than the Sidereal zodiac. But the Sidereal zodiac has broken the ecliptic into 12 equal "signs", each 30-degrees wide. And if you look at a sky map of the actual constellations, you will see that Pisces is a huge old constellation, well over 30 degrees in width ... while Aries is this tiny little constellation, certainly not 30 degrees wide. So it's not totally accurate either.

Answer 3

In astrology, not even the Sidereal zodiac has changed. An amateur astronomer who knows nothing about astrology caused this chaos.



On the other hand, if it's your city science fair, you're not going to be looking for astrology. You'll be looking for an answer related to astronomy. Here are the basic facts:



A Minnesota astronomy instructor Parke Kunkle claimed that precession--the wobble of the earth about its axis at 23.4°--created a shift in the signs that resulted in the Sun being in a different place than people expect. He also pointed out a "13th" constellation named Ophiuchus and said Ophiuchus should be mentioned in the zodiac.



Precession, however, took place over 4000 years ago. Ptolemy charted Ophiuchus among the original constellations he noted. Now if the astronomical community is eager to add Ophiuchus to the Sidereal zodiac (the Western Tropical zodiac doesn't focus on the constellations but on the planets in their own signs), they might also want to consider the constellations of Hercules, Serpens Caput, Serpens Cauda, and Aquila, which border Ophiuchus, and aren't included in the Sidereal zodiac. Ophiuchus, Serpens Caput and Serpens Cauda are actually one constellation according to Universe Today.

[http://www.universetoday.com/22249/ophiuchus/]



Hope that helps...and good luck tomorrow!

Answer 4

It says im a capricorn now, however i refuse to feel it. I'm taking it as any individual born from 2011 on are beneath the brand new dates. I am, were, and can constantly be an aquarius. By the way in which, what the heck is an ophiuchus???

Answer 5

Sidereal is only for the movement of planets in each zodiacal sign every 2000 years. At the age of Christ we had moved into then Age of Pisces at 2000 we moved into the Age of Aquarius.



the Placidus system is used to calculate the natal chart.



http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/sidereal.html this is the equation of sidereal time

Oh, you should definitey check out this next link as it's perfect for what you will need for amunition

http://astrology.clairvision.org/static/astrologymanual/Astrological_house_systems_a_comparison.html