What group of people decides what the outer planets rule?

Question

A top contributor stated in an earlier answer "Astrology is considered to be "ruled" by Uranus. So are electronics and computers." How is this decision made and when?

Answer 1

I thought Uranus was discovered as the last planet?



Edit: I found a link and here it explains why



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planets_in_astrology



Just go under Uranus.



edit2: will check later and send you the link via email. Best wishes.

Answer 2

This might be a set up of some kind, but someone else might be interested.



We'll take one short step back in time and then jump to today. Previously, rulerships were based on the older concept of essence. Objects, ideas, events etc were assigned to planets based on the similarity of essence. Flowers, sweets etc go to Venus. Wounds, surgery, anything bloody goes to Mars. With this kind of thinking it doesn't matter what is invented or when because it is the essence that determines what rules it. The computer, therefore, a calculation and communication device is ruled by Mercury, the planet of logic, calculation, and communication.



Astrology nearly died out in Europe and had not taken a foothold in America in the 18th century. When astrology was revived in the 19th century much had been lost and then the complication of the new planets arrived. While the concept of essence never really died out entirely, a new one was devised. It seems that new planets are discovered when they are needed and therefore those things invented or occurring at or near the time of the new planet is discovered are ruled by that planet. So Uranus rules "revolution," Neptune rules drugs, Pluto rules atomic power.



Add to the confusion that the concept of rulership was undergoing a change and that astrologers needed a way to avoid increasing legal harassment (and that had serious consequences. One English astrologer found guilty of "telling fortunes" was assigned to many years of hard labor and he died in prison as a result). So the outer planets needed to be used differently and given greater influence. Astrologers who managed to get published were the most influential and if it is in print it must be true, right? So some combination of experience, publicity, and acclamation decided what the outer planets rule.



If this sounds ridiculous it does so because it is. But Alan Leo started it, and from him we are at a place where a subject once taken seriously has become, on many levels incoherent. Certainly the roots of modern astrology can be illogical.



There is a cliche: "There is nothing new under the Sun." In terms of essence that's true. So old astrology can account for anything under the Sun, past, present, and future. The new planets don't really have to rule anything. They have uses, but it is beyond the scope of this answer.

Answer 3

>Been Their made this statement, like it's a matter of fact.<



I think it's "Been There." I'm sure he (?) did and I'm sure he believes it. It is in virtually every modern astrology book so it is natural that someone would accept it. This is also true in other fields of study, particularly history. I'm reading a book right now on conspiracy theorists that repeats as fact several historical events that are factually incorrect. It happens.



>Is there a world wide organization for astrology? <



No. There are several organizations in the US like AFA and NCGR and the AA in Great Britain, but there is no world organization. Nor is there any real organization in astrology. It's pretty much of a free-for-all among several groups.



>Where (alleged) research results are submitted and examined? (sic) <



Name some and I'll tell you.Gauquelin's work was peer reviewed. He held a PhD in statistics and Psychology (or psychiatry - I forget which). He submitted his work to an appropriate group.



>If some promote Gauquelin as they love to here, what is the use of his research if no one uses it?<



Why is it when you stop asking leading questions and come to a fact, you never get it right? The only person that I know of other than myself who has cited Gauquelin is Antares. Please direct me to the others that "love" to cite him. Furthermore you don't know what the Gauquelin research is - not that it stops you from dismissing it. Michel Gauquelin tested the position of planets in the charts of members of specific professions, and that's about it. He did not directly test rulerships.



As an FYI, what Gauquelin found was that particular planets were found near the angles in numbers greater than chance for people who were considered the best in their field. The initial testing was done with Military leaders and athletes and the position of Mars. Hence the title of his work "The Mars Effect." Mars was found near one of the angles in numbers exceeding chance in multiple tests. Therefore, according to the laws of statistics, the planet Mars had an effect on the choice of profession. He found the same results with Saturn and Scientists and other links between planets and professions. For over half a century sputtering scientists have done everything including distorting data and lying about their own findings with the same data to simple slander, but the results stand. The only link to ruleships would be the obvious: Mars, god of war, rules things military and physical. Saturn rules methods.



What is the use of asking why no one uses Gauquelin's research, if you don't know what it is, and have always, or other members of your group have always, discounted it?

Answer 4

Those that had a natural curiosity like any field of study . Just like we have the geniuses of our time in any subject matter,this question applies. Where did their natural innate knowledge come from ? Then do we go back to what some Scientist say is the beginning of time with a date.Or, do we look at the date or a beginning and say Science deals with facts,but is Science incorrect ,because before ''the fact '',was something else and something does not come from nothing . So our relationship to the Universe was already in existence and evolved like everything else ,including Science.



I personally don't look at Uranus as ruling Creation but more profound is this ''understanding'' comes from Uranus energy,along with other energies , it is not as simple as Uranus. The Creator of the Heavens and Earth allowed Man free will and through the interlocking chain of events leading to this very moment, the seeds of wisdom that are part of astrology are part of Creation itself ,and shows how Mankind can better relate to it's earliest known source as well as EVERYTHING in existence.



I don't need wiki and a group of anything to know I exist,but the deeper question is ''why does one exist'' since the energy that makes US one with Creation ,happened in the beginning after the design of Creation itself and btw is still Creating. So for me the exact time and point of my entry may be called astrology,but mathematically and Scientifically it adds up to ..Me. And astrology just points this entry out for me..not just Sun,but my position relative to the beginning and helps us better understand our self spiritually at this place and time.



Astrology is not something for everyone,much like we can't all be Doctors,Lawyers or Scientist..this points to innate natural talent and we all have purpose stemming from it's source. Astrology points to your entry in spiritual depths. Spiritual is akin to ''what happened before a Scientific fact'' .

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I know I am not really answering your Q,but this is my opinion,nevertheless.